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Re : Evidence Of Saddam's WMD

>It is believed also that chemicals and other materials discovered

Bush must go on TV and show the people what has been found.

There must be a press conference where reporters and journalists can
inspect the find for themselves.

The scientific community [critical] will also want a finger in the pie.

The people need to be absolutely sure that this is not another dirty trick.

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  1. admin says:

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    <gryb> wrote in message news:cp1k8vgqinusnpc3n640m6u6auj0b13gpi@4ax.com…

    > >It is believed also that chemicals and other materials discovered

    > Bush must go on TV and show the people what has been found.

    > There must be a press conference where reporters and journalists can
    > inspect the find for themselves.

    > The scientific community [critical] will also want a finger in the pie.

    > The people need to be absolutely sure that this is not another dirty trick.

    True. The latest news is that US Marines broke into a depot near Baghdad, which
    had chem-war equipment (gas masks, atropine (antidote), etc., and bags and vials
    of powders. Many reported nausea, spots on the skin, etc; signs of Sarin
    exposure. Can be found at
    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/
    20030405/ts_nm/iraq_chemical_marines_dc_3.
    I saw it on the ABC news tonight also, but oddly enough, I haven’t seen as much
    about it "around" as I would think. We should know more soon enough. Certainly,
    failure to find such weapons would be an embarrassment to the US and British
    administrations.

    Neil Bates

  2. admin says:

    On Sun, 6 Apr 2003 22:01:11 -0400, "Neil" <parado…@lykose.com> wrote
    in alt.fan.art-bell:

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    ><gryb> wrote in message news:cp1k8vgqinusnpc3n640m6u6auj0b13gpi@4ax.com…

    >> >It is believed also that chemicals and other materials discovered

    >> Bush must go on TV and show the people what has been found.

    >> There must be a press conference where reporters and journalists can
    >> inspect the find for themselves.

    >> The scientific community [critical] will also want a finger in the pie.

    >> The people need to be absolutely sure that this is not another dirty trick.

    >True. The latest news is that US Marines broke into a depot near Baghdad, which
    >had chem-war equipment (gas masks, atropine (antidote), etc., and bags and vials
    >of powders. Many reported nausea, spots on the skin, etc; signs of Sarin
    >exposure. Can be found at
    >http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/
    >20030405/ts_nm/iraq_chemical_marines_dc_3.
    >I saw it on the ABC news tonight also, but oddly enough, I haven’t seen as much
    >about it "around" as I would think. We should know more soon enough. Certainly,
    >failure to find such weapons would be an embarrassment to the US and British
    >administrations.

    >Neil Bates

    It doesn’t matter.  Even if chemical or biological weapons are found,
    "certain people" will just claim that it was "planted" there by
    Coalition troops, to avoid the very embarrassment you mentioned.

    V.G.
    "THis was is easy ——————– NONE"  
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  3. admin says:

    Blue Resonant Human, Ph.D. <brotherblu…@hotmail.com> wrote:

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    > ::: Those Clever Sirian Space Aliens :::
    >     [Sub-Figura vel Liber Caeruleus]

    > http://www.noveltynet.org/content/paranormal/www.brotherblue.org/libe

    > … I remain yet unaware of anyone who has actually "got it"
    > and made the connection between the rapidly (re-)emergent
    > Sirius mythos and classical apocalyptic eschatology:

    > "The one place in Crowley’s writings where he gives the meaning of the
    > initials A:.A:. is in his magical record (Cefalu, 1921) where it
    > appears as ACTHP APLOC. This is a corrupt Graeco-Coptic form of
    > Argenteum Astrum (the Silver Star) yet it is the true occult key to
    > the nature of the order, which is not expressed by the correct Latin
    > version of the name. Argos derives from arg or arca, the female
    > generative power symbolised by the moon, the womb-shaped argha used in
    > the mysteries, synonymous with the queen of heaven. Arghya (Sanskrit)
    > is the libation cup; Aster Argos is the lunar or ‘silver’ star.

    > "The lunar component is represented by the eye of Isis, and her star
    > is Sirius, the dog-star (Set). The order of the Silver Star is thus
    > the order of the eye of Set, ‘the Son behind the Sun,’ represented
    > astronomically by the star of Isis, which is Sothis (Sirius).

    > "The constellation of which Sirius was the chief star was once named
    > the Phoenix [this constellation probably corresponded to the complex
    > of stars now known as Cygnus and Aquila]. This was the secret name of
    > Baphomet (Crowley) as the supreme head of the O.T.O. [the Ordo Templi
    > Orientis or Order of the Temple of the East, so called because the
    > east is the place of sunrise. The reference is not, however, to the
    > physical sun, but to the eye of Set, astronomically imaged by Sirius.]
    > He assumed the god- form of this bird (an emblem of the sothic year or
    > cycle) because it reached the meridian (i.e. attained supremacy) at
    > the moment of the rising of Sirius, or Set.

    > "The Silver Star (A:.A:.) is Sirius. As Hoor-paar-Kraat, whose formula
    > is silence and strength, he is the undying god, beyond our solar
    > system. Horus is the ‘son’ of this god and the sun (or father) of our
    > solar system. Horus is thus Hrumachis (son of) the star, Sirius.
    > Sirius, Sothis or Set-An, thus represents the supreme, the eternal
    > light. The star is therefore the key to the present aeon of Horus, for
    > it represents the energy of Satan that will permeate the earth during
    > the present cycle."

    > Aleister Crowley & the Hidden God, p. 59-60
    > 1973 by Kenneth Grant, Skoob, London, ISBN 1-871438-36-5

    >                              -=oOo=-
    ((({<snip>})))
    > -Blue Resonant Human, Ph.D.
    >  Interdimensional Intelligence Analyst
    >  Sacerdotal Knights of National Security
    >  USENET Meme Acquisition and Propagation Directorate
    >  E Pluribus Caeruleus — "Out of many, THAT WHICH IS BLUE."
    >  http://www.noveltynet.org/content/paranormal/www.brotherblue.org/

    ****************************************
    Meanwhile, way back in Persia:

    I sent my Soul through the Invisible,
    Some letter of that After-life to spell:
    And by and by my soul return’d to me,
    And answer’d "I Myself am Heav’n and Hell."
             Omar Khayyam
    ****************************************
    "Stretching across Asia, from Northern Manchuria,
    through Tibet, west through Persia, and ending
     in the Kurdistan, was a chain of seven towers,
      on isolated mountain-tops; and in each of those
       towers sat continually a Priest of Satan, who
        by ‘broadcasting’ occult vibrations controlled
         the destinies of the world for evil."
          Adventures in Arabia
           by William B. Seabrook
            http://www.redflame93.com/Seabrook.html
    ****************************************
    http://www.divinecomedy.org/graphics/purgatorio_bk2.jpg
    The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri
    http://www.divinecomedy.org/
    ****************************************
        Neuropsychological Bases of God Beliefs
     http://www.primalpage.com/lobe.htm
    http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=alt.mytholo
      !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!
     "In the Native American tradition, there is a belief that
       our actions are responsible for the well-being of seven
        generations before us and seven generations after us."
      http://www.witss.com/Healing%20Center/masterexcerpt.html
      !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!
     THE CHIEF CHARACTERISTICS OF THE JINNS
     http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/jinns.htm
     THE SOUL OF MAN IS THE OBJECT OF THE WAR,
     AND MAN HIMSELF IS THE BATTLEFIELD.
      DR. RUDOLPH STEINER
     http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/jinns.htm
     !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!
     DID YOU KNOW That *THE JINN* invented the
     electric toaster oven?!! Hard to believe??!
     YES! BUT…
     It’s ALL TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!
      Visions of the Jinn
     Dr. Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips
      Ibn Taymeeyah’s Essay on the Jinn
     http://www.islaam.com/Article.asp?id=75
     JINN: http://muttaqun.com/jinn.html
     !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!  
     The Land That Developmental Time Forgot
      http://www.primalpage.com/godwin.htm
     "… (V)arious nations in the Islamic world have developed
     a broadly similar pattern of cultural beliefs, practices,
     and institutions that reflect the unresolved needs and
     conflicts of their collective childhood."
     "… Arab discourse on the subject of Israel is so
     psychotically violent, so grotesquely distorted, that
     their perennial desire to ‘liquidate the Zionist entity’
     can only be understood in developmental terms as the lost
     entitlement of a wrathful infant; hell hath no fury like a
     baby scorned."
     "What kind of love is it that rejoices at a child’s death?
     In fact, we should call this parental attitude what it is:
     hatred, which, if deMause is correct, is simply emblementic
     of the kind of care the suicide bombers must have received
     as children. …"
                                 – Dr. Robert Godwin
                 http://www.primalpage.com/godwin.htm
     JOIN THE PEACE CORP!!
     http://www.peacecorps.gov/about/history/index.cfm
     An ATLAS of the UNIVERSE!
     http://www.anzwers.org/free/universe/
     [{|}] [{|}] [{|}] [{|}] [{|}] [{|}] [{|}] [{|}] [{|}]
      "… Although many mystery religions and other
      religious movements in antiquity emphasized a
      dualism between the body and the soul, none
      went to the extreme of Gnosticism.  Rather than
      yearning for immortality in this life, the Gnostics
      viewed living in this world as a kind of hell.
      Like the southern Asian religions, which may
      have influenced this school of thought,
      Gnosticism saw human beings as trapped in a
      cycle of reincarnation and believed that even
      suicide could not release one from bondage
      to the flesh. …"
     http://www.near-death.com/gnosticism.html
     [{|}] [{|}] [{|}]
     Suicide in the United States
     http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/suifacts.htm
     A Practical Guide to Suicide:
     http://www.satanservice.org/coe/suicide/guide/
     [{|}] [{|}] [{|}]
     Sleep Paralysis and Associated Hypnagogic and
     Hypnopompic Experiences:
     http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/S_P2.html
     [{|}] http://eternalambition.com/
     [{|}] Why? The Neuroscience of Suicide
    http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?colID=1&articleID=0006AF90-5BC7-1E1B
     [{|}] http://www.sciam.com/issue.cfm
     Basic Perinatal Matrices – by Stanislav Grof, M.D.
     http://www.primalpage.com/sgrof.htm
     [...]
     … Full conscious experience of the contents of this domain of
     the psyche with good subsequent integration can have far –
     reaching consequences and lead to spiritual opening and deep
     personal transformation. — Stanislav Grof, M.D.
     http://www.primalpage.com/sgrof.htm
     THE DOGS OF WAR
     A Note from Val:
      http://www.trufax.org/
     "Fear comes when you identify with the body, its fear
     of mortality and the genetic programming underlying
     both. It means you are capable of being manipulated
     by those whose task it is to re-stimulate body fears
     for their own agenda in the battle of the polarities.
     When you GROW OUT OF body ID AND REALIZE WHO YOU
     ARE, you will fear Nothing. You are here at this time
     to experience, and to observe the unfolding of
     The Game, while the polarities DO WHAT THEY MUST.
     "Will you allow yourself to be manipulated by others,
     or your own reactive emotions, or by body-induced
     FEAR? What will you choose? Meanwhile the ‘peace
     movements’ continue to unwittingly supply energy to
     the dark side, which feeds off all the energy to
     strengthen itself – to no avail in the end. Will you
     choose to participate in the polarity drama, watch or
     observe and learn? Your choice will influence the
     result for you.
     "You are here BECAUSE OF IT IS THE WAY IT IS, NOT
     IN SPITE OF IT. You cannot stop any sequence of
     events that are part of The Game, or the wild cards
     that are introduced – nor would you want to (unless
     you don’t know who you are). It is what you chose
     for experience. You will experience it and move on
     to new experience, where you will make use of that
     which you have learned here. So what’s really the
     big deal? There isn’t one – it’s just experience
     for every incarnation concerned, uniquely flavored
     for each, to be reflected upon afterward. Allow those
     in mid and low-level incarnational perspectives to
     do their thing, and observe. http://www.trufax.org/
     See also What To Do During EndGame.
     [...]
      "The chains that hold the Fenris Wolf are rent asunder,
      and the Wolf courses about. Brothers shall fight and slay
      one another; sisters’ sons shall break the bonds of
      kinship. It shall fare hard with the world: great
      whoredom, an axe-age, a sword-age, shields shall be
      cloven, a wind-age, a wolf-age, ere the world sinks in
      ruin. No man shall spare the other."
                                                    — Voluspa
      Gurdjieff International Review
      GURDJIEFF  http://www.gurdjieff.org/G.htm
      An Annotated Bibliography
      The Unknown Hitler:
        Nazi Roots in the Occult
      "On April 6, 1919, in Bavaria, left wing

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    brotherblu…@hotmail.com (Blue Resonant Human, Ph.D.) wrote in message <news:2eddbb8b.0304011042.289b5a9@posting.google.com>…

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    > ::: Those Clever Sirian Space Aliens :::
    >     [Sub-Figura vel Liber Caeruleus]

    > http://www.noveltynet.org/content/paranormal/www.brotherblue.org/libe

    > "The Khabs is in the Khu, not the Khu is in the Khabs."

    > Wherein we Grok the Discordian Wisdom of
    >          The V.H. Fra. R.A.W.
    > In Regards to Our Mysterious Sirian Brethren

    > "In this liber it is spoken of the sephiroth & the paths, of spirits
    > and conjurations, of gods, spheres, planes & many other things which
    > may or may not exist. It is immaterial whether they exist or not. By
    > doing certain things certain results follow; students are most
    > earnestly warned against attributing objective reality or
    > philosophical validity to any of them."

    > ::: Sub-Figura ALPHA :::

    > For a precise historical overview of not only the connections between
    > Sirius and ancient occult orders but also of the intrinsic
    > relationship between that star system and Sothis or Set-An, we must
    > examine Kenneth Grant’s work. Oddly enough, despite the fact that I
    > have widely circulated this pointed excerpt, I remain yet unaware of
    > anyone who has actually "got it" and made the connection between the
    > rapidly (re-)emergent Sirius mythos and classical apocalyptic
    > eschatology:

    > "The one place in Crowley’s writings where he gives the meaning of the
    > initials A:.A:. is in his magical record (Cefalu, 1921) where it
    > appears as ACTHP APLOC. This is a corrupt Graeco-Coptic form of
    > Argenteum Astrum (the Silver Star) yet it is the true occult key to
    > the nature of the order, which is not expressed by the correct Latin
    > version of the name. Argos derives from arg or arca, the female
    > generative power symbolised by the moon, the womb-shaped argha used in
    > the mysteries, synonymous with the queen of heaven. Arghya (Sanskrit)
    > is the libation cup; Aster Argos is the lunar or ‘silver’ star.

    > "The lunar component is represented by the eye of Isis, and her star
    > is Sirius, the dog-star (Set). The order of the Silver Star is thus
    > the order of the eye of Set, ‘the Son behind the Sun,’ represented
    > astronomically by the star of Isis, which is Sothis (Sirius).

    > "The constellation of which Sirius was the chief star was once named
    > the Phoenix [this constellation probably corresponded to the complex
    > of stars now known as Cygnus and Aquila]. This was the secret name of
    > Baphomet (Crowley) as the supreme head of the O.T.O. [the Ordo Templi
    > Orientis or Order of the Temple of the East, so called because the
    > east is the place of sunrise. The reference is not, however, to the
    > physical sun, but to the eye of Set, astronomically imaged by Sirius.]
    > He assumed the god- form of this bird (an emblem of the sothic year or
    > cycle) because it reached the meridian (i.e. attained supremacy) at
    > the moment of the rising of Sirius, or Set.

    > "The Silver Star (A:.A:.) is Sirius. As Hoor-paar-Kraat, whose formula
    > is silence and strength, he is the undying god, beyond our solar
    > system. Horus is the ‘son’ of this god and the sun (or father) of our
    > solar system. Horus is thus Hrumachis (son of) the star, Sirius.
    > Sirius, Sothis or Set-An, thus represents the supreme, the eternal
    > light. The star is therefore the key to the present aeon of Horus, for
    > it represents the energy of Satan that will permeate the earth during
    > the present cycle."

    > Aleister Crowley & the Hidden God, p. 59-60
    > 1973 by Kenneth Grant, Skoob, London, ISBN 1-871438-36-5

    >                              -=oOo=-

    > ::: Sub-Figura DELTA :::

    > Consider the Higher Intelligence contacted by Jack Parsons, the
    > American rocket pioneer who co-founded Cal Tech and is reputed to have
    > contributed as much basic innovative technology to aerospace as
    > Goddard or von Braun. Parsons, who was a member of the Ordo Templi
    > Orientis, back in the 1930s-40s when Aleister Crowley was still alive
    > and acting as Outer Head, subsequently published The Book of the
    > AntiChrist — a strange, beautiful, revolutionary document which, like
    > Crowley’s Book of the Law, was allegedly dictated by a Higher
    > Intelligence. This entity is described by Parsons only as "most Holy
    > and beautiful": it urged Parsons to declare war on "all authority that
    > is not based on courage and manhood … the authority of lying
    > priests, conniving judges, blackmailing police," and called for "an
    > end to restriction and inhibition, conscription, compulsion,
    > regimentation and the tyranny of laws."
    > Part Two of this strange document urges all truth-seekers to practice
    > Crowleyan sex-yoga: "Concentrate all force and being in Our Lady
    > Babalon. Light a single light on her altar, saying Flame is our Lady;
    > flame is her hair. I am flame." Etc. [As an interesting aside here,
    > Parsons was killed in a horrible fiery accident involving mercury
    > fulminate in his Holy Rocket Science Lab -B:.B:.] Babalon, in
    > Crowley’s Tarot, is The Star, which Kenneth Grant says is Sirius.

    [...]

    Yeah, crowley also says that ‘Tzaddi is not the star’, which points
    to some problems with the whole babalon thing IMHO.

    It might be for this reason that crowley was so upset when parsons
    tried to force an incarnation of babalon – it was bound to be a
    totally fucked up endeavor.

    Remember that a ‘tzadik’ in hebrew (to my knowledge) is a good
    and godly person who in a way supports the world, along with other
    ‘tzadiks’.

    Lisa Agnes Gardner